Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1992 18:37:04 EST From: Steffan O'Sullivan Subject: SUMMARY: Favorite "five" Favorite "five:" (hard to stick to just that!) 32 contributors. Whew! Okay, no new responses for two days. So here's the summary. I list the GAME and then COMPANY and then CONTRIBUTOR by a letter/number code. If a contributor didn't list the company, I supplied it if I knew what it was, or put (?). OP = Out of Print, but this is probably not even close to being accurate - please correct this, as I stopped trying after awhile. Contributor names follow the list. ASTERISKS means it got multiple votes - the number of asterisks equals the number of votes. Quantity per voter: this is tough. I didn't include all of Don's honorable mentions - too many! - nor Rob Dean's "Favorite unplayed games," even though it's a great category. I did include some honorable mentions if the list wasn't too long. So some folks snuck more votes in than others . . . the human element in summaries, sorry . . . 6th Fleet (SPI) (J2 R4) ** 88 (Yaquinto). (D3) Advanced Civilization (AH). (D1) Ambush! (VG). (M2) Anzio (AH) (R1 R5) ** Ardennes Offensive (SPI). (D4 D6) OP ** ASL (AH). (D3 D5 J1 K1 M3 B1 G3 R5) ***** *** ASL Red Barracades (AH). (D3 R5) ** Atlantic Wall (SPI). (D5 B1) OP ** B-17 (AH). (M2) Balance of power (?). (K3) Battle of the Bulge (AH). (D3) Battlefield Europe (?). (L2) Battles for the Ardennes (SPI). (D4) Bismark (AH). (G2 J4) ** Blitzkrieg (AH). (D1 S1) ** Blitzkrieg Module System (SPI). (R2) OP Blue Max (GDW). (S1) Britannia (AH) (H1 L1) ** Caesar's Legions (AH) (H1 R4) ** Caesar, Alesia (AH). (H3 M2) ** Campaign for North Africa (SPI). (J3) OP Chickamauga (WEG) (H2 J2) ** Civil War, The (VG). (H3 K1 G3) *** Civilization (AH). (L1 L2 K2 R4 R1 D2 D6) ***** ** Cobra (SPI). (H2) Conquistador (S&T 58). (D6 R4) ** Dark December (OSG) (K2) Dauntless (Yaquinto, AH). (D2) OP Diplomacy (Games Research, AH, Wad.). (J4 R4 R2 D2) **** Drang Nach Osten (GDW/GRD). (E1) Dreadnought (?) (M3) Druid (Boudica's Revenge) (West End Games) (H3) Empire, original (?). (K3) Empires in Arms (AH). (H3) Fighting Sail (SPI). (J3 S1) OP ** Fire Fight (SPI). (D2) OP Fire in the East/ Scorched Earth (GR/D) (K2) Fire Team (WEG) (J2) Firepower (AH). (R2) Flat Top (AH). (D3 J4 K1) *** Fortress Europa (AH). (H3 H2) ** Four Great Medieval Battles (SPI). (G1) Frederick the Great (SPI, AH). (H2) Gettysburg, '58 edition (AH). (D3 S1) OP ** Great Battles of the American Civil War (?). (H3) Harpoon (GDW) (D1 K3 L2 M3) **** Hastings, 1066 (SPI). (D4) Hell's Highway (VG) (H3) Highway to the Reich (SPI). (D7) Ironclads (Yaquinto). (R2 D2) OP ** Iwo Jima (S&T #92) (D4 H3) OP ** Jutland (Command) (M2) Kingmaker (AH, Gibson). (L1 D7 R4 R1 M3 R2 R3) ***** ** Lee vs Grant (VG) (H1) Legend of Robin Hood (OSG, AH). (D6) Luftwaffe - AH (D7) Marston Moor (SPI). (D4) Mech Brigade (SSI). (K3) Midway (AH). (D4 R2) ** Napoleon (Gamma II, Columbia, AH). (S1 D2) ** Napoleon's Last Battles quad (SPI). (D2) OP Narvik (GDW). (K2) NATO Division Commander (?). (R3) Operation Crusader (GDW). (D4) Pacific War (VG) (G3 M1) ** Panzer Blitz (AH). (D4 G1 R3) *** PanzerArmee Afrika (SPI). (D4) PanzerLeader (AH). (D4) Panzergruppe Guderian (S&T 57). (D6) Quebec 1759 (Columbia). (S1 M2) ** Red Star/White Star (SPI). (J1) Richtofen's War (AH). (D2 G1) OP ** Rise and Fall of the Third Reich (AH). (J3) Rommel in the Desert (Columbia Games) (H3) Rommel's War (Quarterdeck) (G3) Russian Campaign (AH) (D7 E1 G3 H2 J2 J3) ***** * Singapore (S&T 96). (D6) Sniper (SPI issue). (D3) Squad Leader (AH). (D4 D5 G1 H1 J3 K3 R3) ***** ** Stalingrad (AH). (D3 D4 E1) OP *** Storm over Arnhem (AH). (B1) Submarine (AH) (D1) Terrible Swift Sword (SPI). (R3) Third Reich (AH) (J4 R4) ** Thunder at Cassino (AH). (B1) Thunder at the Crossroads (The Gamers). (D3 K1) ** Tokyo Express (VG). (M1) Tractics - (TSR) (D7) Turning Point Stalingrad (AH). (B1) Up Front (AH). (S1) V for Victory (L2) Victory in the Pacific (AH). (E1) Victory in the West/Patton's 3rd. Army (S&T ??). (E1) Vietnam 1965-1975 (VG). (D5 D6 H3 G3) **** War & Peace (AH) (Richand N.) War in Europe (SPI) (D1 H3) OP ** Waterloo (AH). (S1 R4) OP ** Western Front Tank Leader (WEG). (M1) Wings (Yaquinto). (J4) OP Wooden Ships and Iron Men (AH). (D3 G1 J2 K1 M1 M3) ***** * World in Flames (ADG). (D1 L2 R1) *** I pulled out all the non-historical-wargames and list them below. This really isn't a representative list, since the original query limited it to historical wargames, so other folks might have included things in this category, too. I myself have some excellent choices for starship fighting games ... I have to admit that all of these games are indeed CONflict SIMulations, though ... 1830 (AH) (D2 R3) ** 1835 (Hans-im-Glueck/imp. by Mayfair). (R2) Acquire (3M now AH). (D2) Amoeba Wars (AH). (D2 J1) OP ** Barbarians (Yaquinto). (R4) Cosmic Encounter (EON, Mayfair). (D2) Empire Builder (Mayfair) (K2 L1) ** Eurorails (Mayfair) (L1) Imperium (GDW). (H1 R2) ** King of the TableTop (TSR Dragon) (R4) Merchants of Venus (AH). (R2) Planet Busters (TSR Dragon) (R4) Pursue the Pennant (PTP). (S1) Silent Death (ICE). (D2) Starfire 3 (Task Force). (G3) Starforce Alpha Centauri (SPI 1974). (R2) OP Stellar Conquest (Metagaming, AH). (D2) OP Titan (AH). (D5 R2) ** Triplanetary (GDW). (R2) OP Here are the contributors by code. Personally, I'd vote for any questions on these games be done via the list - I'd love to see the answers, too! I don't vouch that these addresses are correct (except mine) - I'm not very good at deciphering bang paths. B1 brian@tpocc.gsfc.nasa.gov (Brian Youse) D1 dan@engrg.uwo.ca (Dan Corrin) D2 dklash@sedofis%sed.bitnet (Dave) D3 dave_wetzel@vos.stratus.com (Dave Wetzel) D4 dhf@alpha.sunquest.com (David Foard) D5 out@cs.utwente.nl (Dirk-Jan Out) D6 dpirot@vm.ucs.ualberta.ca (Don Pirot) D7 goodwin@smcvax.Bitnet (Dave Goodwin) E1 niel@uts.uni-c.dk (Erik Lawaetz) G1 geedey%msukbs.bitnet (?) G2 gerryf@naitvm.bitnet (Gerry Findling) G3 gregg@hcacad.holycross.edu (Gregg Belevick) H1 hannu@kontu.utu.fi (Hannu Pajunen) H2 cs.hst@stanford.bitnet (Henry Lowood) H3 hgerber@vm.ucs.ualberta.ca (Hjalmar Gerber) J1 standeven@fnalad.bitnet (Jedi Jack) J2 jdb@inel.gov (John Burtt) J3 John=Hirvela@EMC=Srvc%Eng=Hou%BANGATE.COMPAQ.COM (John Hirvela) J4 JRBOEKE@UCI.EDU (Joseph Boeke) K1 Kevin_Collins@vos.stratus.com (Kevin Collins) K2 lharris@upei.ca (Kevin Harris) K3 s05103@flc%vaxf.colorado.edu (K. K. Williams) L1 lharris@upei.ca (Lara Harris) L2 cvadsaav@csupomona.edu (Lord Krieg) M1 mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac (Markus Stumptner) M2 cboucher@vm.ucs.ualberta.ca (Michel) M3 arhn6001@iruccvax.ucc.ie (Mike Cosgrave) R1 rick@ia.nwl.ac.uk (Richard Neale) R2 rsdean@crdec8.apgea.army.mil (Robert S. Dean) R3 droster%citadel.bitnet (RD) R4 rdawson@ccs.carleton.ca (Ron Dawson) R5 velthuys@dhdibm1.bitnet (Rolf Velthuys) S1 sos@oz.plymouth.edu (Steffan O'Sullivan) And, finally, an incomplete breakdown by company. Incomplete because of the numerous (?) above, and because I didn't include the non-historical- wargames in the count (AH's count would rise!). Note that I just lumped S&T's as SPI. I'll let Michel do percentages if he wants to . . . :-) Also note that this is just the number of *titles* mentioned - not votes. AH: 42 SPI: 24 VG: 6 GDW: 4 West End: 4 Columbia: 3 Yaquinto: 4 OSG: 2 Anything else mentioned: 1 -Steffan sos@oz.plymouth.edu